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Oct 31, 2025
Oct 31, 2025
21 min
In this final episode on the Bamidbar Torah portion, Roy breaks down the Rabbinic law on criticism and Cedric speaks to what it means to be a beacon of hope.
References: Proverbs 29:7, Romans 12:1, 8:19-25
Oct 24, 2025
Oct 24, 2025
25 min
In this continuation of the Bamidbar Torah portion, Roy and Cedric talk about how with more responsibility comes a higher standard and Roy talks about having an understanding of one’s station in life. Roy speaks to his experiences in having to choose his character. Cedric talks about what he’s learned about the significance of integrity in ministry.
References: Numbers 3:16-31
Oct 17, 2025
Oct 17, 2025
20 min
In this continuation of the Bamidbar Torah portion, Roy and Cedric note the association of the different tribes with different animals. They analyze the scripture itself and analyze numerical representation of names and the importance of directionality. Roy also speaks to the significance of the 30 day mark when a child could be counted in the census.
References: Numbers 2, 3:1-15
Oct 10, 2025
Oct 10, 2025
25 min
In this continuation of the Bamidbar Torah portion, Roy and Cedric continue to talk about lineage and discuss how and why the Levites were separated out from the Israelites. They also touch on the role of the firstborn and Roy identifies aspects of organized religion in the scripture.
References: Numbers 1:16-20, 1:47-54, Exodus 12:3-7, 19:5-6, 24:4-8
Oct 3, 2025
Oct 3, 2025
24 min
Roy and Cedric begin discussion on the Bamidbar Torah portion by establishing the importance of receiving what God is saying. Roy talks about the standard of Sukkot and his experience with it. Cedric analyzes the idea of lost culture and the significance of heritage.
References: Numbers 1:1-15
Sep 26, 2025
Sep 26, 2025
23 min
In the final episode covering the Tazria portion, Roy and Cedric establish the responsibility of the church to regulate its own people and not uphold people outside of the community to its rules. Roy talks about the Jewish approach to prayer.
Passages referenced: Leviticus 14:3, 1 Corinthians 5, Psalm 118:24
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Sep 19, 2025
Sep 19, 2025
21 min
In this continuation of the Tazria portion, Roy and Cedric discuss what it takes to get tzaraat and what it takes to remove it. They also dig deeper into why one could be considered clean, even with the presence of tzaraat. Cedric considers the representation of the different elements used in the ceremony of cleansing. Roy clarifies the difference between tzaraat and leprosy.
Passages referenced: Leviticus 14:1-6, Revelation 3:15-16
Sep 12, 2025
Sep 12, 2025
23 min
Roy and Cedric continue analysis of the Tazria portion with a discussion on how easily people engage in lashon hara. They also begin to discuss the handling of leprosy and who determines if someone is “unclean,” as well as establishing the difference between a condition and a natural state.
Passages referenced: Leviticus 13:2-14, Proverbs 29:7, Hebrews 4:12
Meet the Hosts
Cedric Spencer is a life-long Christian who was raised up in his great-grandmother’s church and eventually learned to love the word of God with the level of passion similar to which he was being taught. His mother, whom he describes as a voracious learner and student in general, approached the Word with “passion and vigor” and encouraged him to seek out someone with rabbinical understanding to learn the cultural contexts of the text he was reading.
Roy Keiningham is a Messianic Jew who grew up believing in the concept of God, but not Jesus. He converted to Christianity with his wife during the prosperity gospel era and struggled to find connection and fellowship with other Christians due to his desire to find more than just blessing and salvation. Over the years, he continued to seek out an answer to the question, “who is Jesus?” He struggled to find an answer in the church, so he continued searching until he found himself preferring, for some time, to attend synagogue. He attended a Yeshivah to study Jewish thought and the Hebrew language, and over time, he began to reconcile Yeshua Hamashiach (Jesus, the Messiah) with God Himself.
Roy and Cedric met through the church that they both worked for, though they worked on different campuses. Cedric’s experience was in IT and social media web development, but had been asked to move into the video department after some overlap became apparent in his social media role. In his training, he found that he would need some additional help with live streaming in particular, as he wanted to lead his campus “in a way that ultimately served God well.” So, he visited the corporate headquarters, where he met Roy, who had nearly 30 years of media experience, and volunteered to come out to Cedric’s campus and assist with training.
It was during this time that they began discussing scripture and Torah with each other. After Roy’s assistance was no longer needed at Cedric’s campus, they continued to meet over the years to study together, do deep dives into Torah, and exchange thought processes between Christianity and Judaism.