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Sep 5, 2025
Sep 5, 2025
21 min
Roy begins this continuation of the Tazria portion by explaining the sin offering. He and Cedric begin to discuss the process of restoration from leprosy. Roy talks about how tzaraat does not have a remedy provided in scripture. Cedric speaks to the ease of the spread of lashon hara.
Passages referenced: Leviticus 13, Proverbs 24:17-18

Aug 29, 2025
Aug 29, 2025
25 min
To start their discussion of the Tazria Torah portion, Roy talks specifics in the Hebrew translation, and Cedric speaks to the significance of the portion. Roy goes on to explain the importance of a child being born female and clarifies the context of what it means to be clean or unclean.
Passages referenced: Leviticus 12:1-8, 15:19-30, Matthew 4:1-3, 16:13-20

Aug 22, 2025
Aug 22, 2025
24 min
In the final episode of the Ki Tisa portion, Roy talks about the names of God and the divine name given to Moshe. He and Cedric discuss Moshe’s experience with God on Mount Sinai. They go on to discuss the attributes of God, and Cedric relates these to the fruits of the Spirit.
Passages referenced: Exodus 33:18-23, 34:4-7, Galatians 5:22-23, Acts 15:24-29, 19:14-15, Matthew 25:14-30

Aug 15, 2025
Aug 15, 2025
23 min
In this episode reviewing the Ki Tisa portion, Roy and Cedric explore Moshe’s relationship with God and his intentions and desires. They also establish Moshe’s status both on earth and in heaven.
Passages referenced: Exodus 33:7-16, Numbers 24:4

Aug 8, 2025
Aug 8, 2025
25 min
In this continuation of the Ki Tisa portion, Roy and Cedric discuss the Sabbath, and Roy points out that observance of Shabbat is a practice. Cedric talks about the nature of Moshe’s relationship with God and the promise given to Moshe by God. They further analyze the differences between the first and second sets of tablets on which the 10 Commandments were provided.
Passages referenced: Exodus 31:18, 32:15-16, 33:20-23, 34:1-2

Aug 1, 2025
Aug 1, 2025
19 min
In this episode of the Ki Tisa portion, Roy and Cedric discuss the responsibility of believers to be representative of Mashiach on earth. Roy notes the “presence” of Mashiach in this section of Torah. Cedric speaks to Jesus’s communicative nature.
Passages referenced: Exodus 30:30-32, 31:1-6

Jul 25, 2025
Jul 25, 2025
31 min
In this episode of the Ki Tisa portion, Roy and Cedric review the process of development to get closer to God. They also discuss the materials withheld by the women when the calf was being made and the difference between a father’s and a mother’s approach to their community. Roy shows curiosity in Cedric’s and others’ interpretations of what the laver looks like.
Passages referenced: Exodus 30:13-18, Acts 5:1-11

Jul 18, 2025
Jul 18, 2025
22 min
In this episode, Roy and Cedric begin discussion on the Ki Tisa Torah portion. Roy points out the influences of Kabbalah and establishes that the Torah is not chronological. Cedric talks about his appreciation for the equalizing moment of the offering of atonement for the Israelites and what set Moshe apart.
Passages referenced: Exodus 32, Exodus 30:11-15

Meet the Hosts
Cedric Spencer is a life-long Christian who was raised up in his great-grandmother’s church and eventually learned to love the word of God with the level of passion similar to which he was being taught. His mother, whom he describes as a voracious learner and student in general, approached the Word with “passion and vigor” and encouraged him to seek out someone with rabbinical understanding to learn the cultural contexts of the text he was reading.
Roy Keiningham is a Messianic Jew who grew up believing in the concept of God, but not Jesus. He converted to Christianity with his wife during the prosperity gospel era and struggled to find connection and fellowship with other Christians due to his desire to find more than just blessing and salvation. Over the years, he continued to seek out an answer to the question, “who is Jesus?” He struggled to find an answer in the church, so he continued searching until he found himself preferring, for some time, to attend synagogue. He attended a Yeshivah to study Jewish thought and the Hebrew language, and over time, he began to reconcile Yeshua Hamashiach (Jesus, the Messiah) with God Himself.
Roy and Cedric met through the church that they both worked for, though they worked on different campuses. Cedric’s experience was in IT and social media web development, but had been asked to move into the video department after some overlap became apparent in his social media role. In his training, he found that he would need some additional help with live streaming in particular, as he wanted to lead his campus “in a way that ultimately served God well.” So, he visited the corporate headquarters, where he met Roy, who had nearly 30 years of media experience, and volunteered to come out to Cedric’s campus and assist with training.
It was during this time that they began discussing scripture and Torah with each other. After Roy’s assistance was no longer needed at Cedric’s campus, they continued to meet over the years to study together, do deep dives into Torah, and exchange thought processes between Christianity and Judaism.
