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Roy and Cedric continue the Terumah portion, discussing the details of the colors used in the materials used for the tabernacle and the significance of the copper used in the laver. They contemplate the perpetuity of God’s Word and humans’ responsibility of earthly resources. They also stress the temporary status of the physical Tabernacle. Roy shares additional thoughts on the importance of understanding the language used in Torah.
Passages: Exodus 25:3-5, 30:18, Isaiah 55:11
Friday Jun 20, 2025
Friday Jun 20, 2025
Cedric gives his take on the beginning of the Terumah portion in this episode and talks about the purpose of offering. He considers the symbolism of the Ark of the Covenant. He and Roy discuss the construction and materials of the tabernacle, particularly focusing on the mysterious animal, tachash, as well as what everything is meant to represent.
Passages referenced: Exodus 25:1-2, Genesis 2:25
Friday Jun 13, 2025
Friday Jun 13, 2025
In this episode, Roy begins the discussion of the Terumah portion by establishing the necessity of context to read Hebrew. Cedric speaks to the general trouble of translations and interpretations of the Bible. They also talk about the conflicts and ties between the Old and New Testaments, and the importance of both. Roy speaks to his consideration of details in his studies of Torah. Finally, they begin to dig into the construction of the tabernacle.
Passages referenced: John 14:2-3, 10:30, and 15:1-8, Luke 1:3-4, Acts 17:11, John 14:8-21, Exodus 25
Friday Jun 06, 2025
Friday Jun 06, 2025
In this episode, Roy and Cedric close out their discussion of the Parashat Bo Torah portion by discussing the plague of the death of the firstborn. They also touch on the consolidation of people as the Israelites left Egypt. Roy talks about how he came to understand Jesus Christ and the issue with trying to explain who He is. They talk about the actual requirement of being born again. Cedric considers why Jesus did the things He did on this earth.
Passages referenced: Exodus 11:2-7,12:35-36
Friday May 30, 2025
Friday May 30, 2025
In this continuation of the Parashat Bo Torah portion, Roy and Cedric discuss the plague of darkness that fell over Egypt and what set it apart from a typical darkness. Cedric ponders the conceptual difference between the identity of “Christian” versus “believer.” Roy revisits what it means to be a lover of the truth.
Passages referenced: Exodus 10:21-22, 11:4
Friday May 23, 2025
Friday May 23, 2025
In this continuation of the Parashat Bo Torah portion, Roy and Cedric talk about how we will be held accountable for our actions and history and establish that repentance is a requirement of having a relationship with God. They further discuss the battle between Pharaoh and God, moving from the locust plague to the plague of darkness.
Passages referenced: Exodus 10:5-21, Psalms 33:12
Friday May 16, 2025
Friday May 16, 2025
In this continuation of the Parashat Bo Torah portion, Roy discusses the idea that God's Word does not return to Him void. Cedric speaks to the plagues being representative of the different Egyptian gods. They discuss the difference between being a slave and being enslaved and which the Isrealites in Egypt were. Roy speaks to the importance of that difference in acknowledging poor work treatment and relates the Israelite experience in Egypt to modern times.
Passages referenced: Exodus 10:1-2, Proverbs 29:2
Video Links: Locust Super Swarm
Friday May 09, 2025
Friday May 09, 2025
Welcome back to In the Middle! Roy and Cedric discuss the relationship between God and Pharaoh in this introduction of the Parashat Bo Torah portion. They also talk about the responsibility of God’s people in finding their redemption in Egypt.
Passages referenced: Genesis 12-13, 15, Exodus 12:29, Numbers 3:12-13, Exodus 10:1
Video Links: Locust Super Swarm
Meet the Hosts
Cedric Spencer is a life-long Christian who was raised up in his great-grandmother’s church and eventually learned to love the word of God with the level of passion similar to which he was being taught. His mother, whom he describes as a voracious learner and student in general, approached the Word with “passion and vigor” and encouraged him to seek out someone with rabbinical understanding to learn the cultural contexts of the text he was reading.
Roy Keiningham is a Messianic Jew who grew up believing in the concept of God, but not Jesus. He converted to Christianity with his wife during the prosperity gospel era and struggled to find connection and fellowship with other Christians due to his desire to find more than just blessing and salvation. Over the years, he continued to seek out an answer to the question, “who is Jesus?” He struggled to find an answer in the church, so he continued searching until he found himself preferring, for some time, to attend synagogue. He attended a Yeshivah to study Jewish thought and the Hebrew language, and over time, he began to reconcile Yeshua Hamashiach (Jesus, the Messiah) with God Himself.
Roy and Cedric met through the church that they both worked for, though they worked on different campuses. Cedric’s experience was in IT and social media web development, but had been asked to move into the video department after some overlap became apparent in his social media role. In his training, he found that he would need some additional help with live streaming in particular, as he wanted to lead his campus “in a way that ultimately served God well.” So, he visited the corporate headquarters, where he met Roy, who had nearly 30 years of media experience, and volunteered to come out to Cedric’s campus and assist with training.
It was during this time that they began discussing scripture and Torah with each other. After Roy’s assistance was no longer needed at Cedric’s campus, they continued to meet over the years to study together, do deep dives into Torah, and exchange thought processes between Christianity and Judaism.